Distant lovers interracial

topic posted Fri, August 12, 2005 - 6:52 AM by  philip
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Here's a question: How can you get a pretty white lady who lives far away from where you are to fall in love with you?
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  • Re: Distant lovers interracial

    Fri, August 12, 2005 - 8:02 AM
    just let her know how you feel and be yourself... don't be who she wants you to be. That's more trouble than it's worth. If you are real with her and you make the effort it is possible. I know quite a few people who have found love online... including me. I live in Southern cali and my fiance lived in Northern cali. Now he is here in southern cali with me. It might not be the same distance you are talking about, but if it's ment to be and you are both open to it just take your time and it will happen
    • Re: Distant lovers interracial

      Fri, August 12, 2005 - 10:01 AM
      It's kind of hard being oneself when the other person might think you're just stringing him/her along, don't you think?
      • Re: Distant lovers interracial

        Fri, August 12, 2005 - 3:29 PM
        why would she think that tho
        • Re: Distant lovers interracial

          Fri, August 19, 2005 - 6:30 AM
          Well, for one thing it's prety hard letting someone convice you about him/herself through the internet, especially when there's no near possibly way of both of you meeting eachother face to face.
          • Re: Distant lovers interracial

            Fri, August 19, 2005 - 6:51 AM
            Why is there "no near possibility"? Never say never and try not to sell yourself short. A long distant relationship is hard enough with enough hurdles to jump, and any relationship long distant or otherwise is a full-time job and hard work that should be put in by both, but back to the "no possibility", without getting to personal why is it not? maybe it's not in the forseeable furture but it should be in the furture. From what I've read you care pretty deeply for this person and I know if I have or had feeling like that for someone it would make me want to do what was in my means, such as in possible long term planning to see that person and working with them and working extra to save to see them. Because at some point I wouldnt want to leave their side.......

            Philip you seem a little bit discouaged I say dont be and if your loved one is fighting you so much with you on "proving" yourself to them just maybe they just aren't ready or their not the one for you.

            Keep you head up!!

            ~Bebe~
            • Re: Distant lovers interracial

              Fri, August 19, 2005 - 9:34 AM
              Yeah, like what's up with that. I'm currently and deeply involved with someone that , while not that far away, doesn't live in my country. We met not very long ago and already we've planned a trip to meet and spend some serious time together. I've been busting my ass off doing extra shifts at work to save up enough to get there, that's all he wants, cause HE plans to take care of the rest . That's the way it should be, if 2 people really want to be together, they'll find a way to manage it. If this girl is giving you the run-around maybe, as harsh as this is, she not really, really interested. Or maybe she's just scared of getting involved with someone so far from her. Understandbly so, because people that live together don't even work out most times and being in a long distance relationship can be lonely during the best of times. My suggestion.......just be brutally honest with one another about the situation, your expectations and desires. Also, what it is exactly that you want too. If nothing still happens, then you had better face the music and move on honey cause that'll be a clear indication of your chances. It might seem harsh but sometimes these are things that people need to hear. I hope it helps and good luck with everything!
              • Re: Distant lovers interracial

                Sat, August 20, 2005 - 1:36 PM
                Thickychick, your advice is all so true.

                In my case, I was so honest she knew what I wanted, and from what she said I thought she wanted us to be together too. She had some issues, which over time I resolved, and I tried everything for us to be together, but worse, she actively put things in the way, all while accepting a lot of money I thought was to support her (so she could eat and not be evicted) until she could move to be with me. I couldn't move for various reasons, and we agreed early on she'd be the one to move.

                Here's the bad part: she USED me.
                She had a cell phone I paid for (which she'd always run over the minutes no matter how hard I kept reminding her, I even more than doubled the minutes plan, and STILL she went over).
                I drove a car over 1600 miles for her to use and I paid the insurance/gas/repairs.
                I paid her rent/bills and bought appliances.
                I'd send many many cards and meaningful, romantic gifts.
                All to care for her and make her feel special, until she could move.
                She even accepted a ring on my blatent request for her to move (actually it was 2 rings). Except later she'd claim she didn't say yes (she said "Yes is on my lips, but I have things to sort out first"), but she ACCEPTED the rings! I assumed her words meant "YES" but I need to sort things out like pack, sell/dump things, etc.
                This was just after she left her job (I still don't think has one yet - after a year).
                I also paid for her to fly to visit her family. I mostly paid for her to visit me, yet she still would throw some constraint on when she could or could not come, eg she promised to visit for 2 weekends, but it seemed to interfere with her going to a party, so she broke that promise.
                She wanted to go back after visiting me for 1 day - my birthday, when the next 2 were a weekend, but she preferred to go to a wedding of the sister of a friend that she didn't really know the name of, but while I don't believe there was any 2 timing going on, but people have suggested it could have been.
                I would even plan that our flights would become a connecting flight for us to fly the last portion there and back together on a weekend vacation (it meant I had to do a double connection, but I felt it was worth it, for us to be together). Unfortunately, for half of the vacation she spent time with other friends, making me feel like some hanger on, who she'd picked up that afternoon!
                I also caught her out in a lie to do with her supposedly just filling out a profile for eharmony. She admitted when she was doing it that would probably cause an issue between us, yet still did it. She even KNEW I loved doing online profiles, yet never told me. Very suspicious.

                Somehow she led me to believe she DID want us to have a future together.
                Somehow she claimed she loved me. Maybe she loved what I gave, and took me for granted! It was extremely hurtful to in taking the phone back to discover messages of men saying things like "I love you" (in a meaningful way) at the end of their messages!

                So YES, your advice is exactly what I had to do. I believe I waited too long from what everyone (including 3 councillors have said), which for me was 9 months from when she could move, after we'd househunted and I'd bought a house for us we both liked, that like a fool I was waiting and waiting in, until I HAD to see the reality. Before that it had been a year knowing each other (with me sending what added up to many thousands). Even in those 9 months when she had some money to support herself, I ended up supporting her - still in the thousands. And while she accepted it all, she still made it obvious at the end she didn't WANT to be with me. Those 9 months I became extremely down, feeling extremely lonely with no light at the end of the tunnel from her actions, maybe depressed, and she knew it - How hurtful!

                So my (probably jaded) advice is don't commit to someone who shows no REAL signs of commitment. REAL means some actions, not just words. Maybe she can send something important to her as a sign of she's moving (I was hoping to look after her dog while she got ready to move and spent a while looking after her grandmother), but she couldn't show ANY commitment.

                Do NOT commit ANY money, loan, give, send, whatever (I doubt she'll ever attempt to send back anything, even though a significant portion she PROMISED she'd pay back). Also be low on the expense of gifts, but make them sentimental/meaningful, because if she turns out to be just using you, you will feel EXTREMELY damaged. I know I do even after getting close to 3 months now.

                I cannot imagine what she tells her friends! And somehow probably paints me to be the bad guy! I know I got a call on the cell phone (which I gave to my son) from one of her friends who used inappropriate language in hs voicemail! Probably to call me names, but please, when the cell message says my sons name, what the hell must she be telling them! I bet she misses out telling me how extremely caring I was for 20 months, and how she led me on!

                So, this is the second BAD relationship I have had with black women, the first I married (so at least we were together), but she'd spend way way much more money, and would be manipulative, etc.
                So my experience so far is 2 for 2 - bad.
                Please don't tell me all black women love to just use white guys for what they can get. I canNOT believe that stereotype. I generally try not to see color, although I do visually like black women as they often have a lovely figure I appreciate, nice skin tone, very appealing lips, etc, and initially both of these women seemed to have nice personalities (which is of course more important), but these two experiences are not good. They must have been obviously hiding their true selves.
                So I hope I have just happened to have had bad luck.
                • Re: Distant lovers interracial

                  Sat, August 20, 2005 - 2:09 PM
                  B,
                  I'm so sorry you had such a bad experience. I'm glad for you that its finally over. I can't believe she took you for all that and I can't believe that you gave her all that!!! Even though you saw that she wasn't committing to you in any way......Damn honey thats messed up. I can only say sorry, no the rest of us aren't like that! I think your mistake wasn't that you gave too much, but that you gave too much to someone that OBVIOUSLY didn't appreciate it and was quite undeserving of your affection and devotion. I let my guy know everyday just how much he has come to mean to me and do my best to mantain our connection. This trip that we're planning is coming from my pocket, at least to get there and that's the way it should be: a 2 way street. Damn fellas, what kinda women have you been dealing with? I wish you both much love and luck the next time around. There are women that WILL care for you and treat you properly.................
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                    Re: Distant lovers interracial

                    Sat, August 20, 2005 - 2:38 PM
                    OK, I did summarize the entire BAD side of the story.
                    There were good times:
                    • We'd go on trips (she knew the area I'd fly into - obviously).
                    • We spent evenings looking at the stars (and satellites).
                    • We'd try restaurants we said were good.
                    • She helped me with my divorce - with many long hours of supportive phone calls.
                    • She send me gifts and cards probably as much as she could afford (although near the end, when I'd not received a card for a long time, she gave a flower and card to the guy who said "I love you" in the voicemail, because he was down - but WOW would lay money that I even more down, but did I get a card and/or a gift - no. Another guy who said "I love you" in VM was apparently gay).
                    • she did spend last Christmas and New Years eve/day with me, when she could have been with friends and family, but she did admit and told a friend that despite her belief that New Years eve with me would be a flop, it was the best she'd ever had.
                    • she apparently would tell everyone about me all the time (annoy them too), but this could have been her making that up, none of her friends told me directly, since she hated me having anything to do with them. I remember her getting annoyed since I did as I thought she wanted me to, by leaving a message with a friend, and she was ULTRA pissed off when I intro'd myself as her boyfriend.
                    • she got on well with my kids (those she'd met)
                    • she did pay back at 5% of the cash I'd sent her, when she got a huge lumpsum settlement from her ex-job.
                    • we had great sex, no, no really, both of us did. And were more in tune with each other than anyone ever before.
                    • there is some psychic bond between us. I'd almost always wake up 5 or 10 minutes before she would call. Sometimes I'd call her when I knew she was about to call (that used to surprise her, she'd say her hand was ON the phone). Other times I also sensed her and got all anxious, etc, when things were going on with her there. Actually I still do. I will wake up, later to find out she sent me email or was looking at our photos on the webpage/photo albums I made for us. I even dream about her friends, that feel so real, I mentioned them, but she neither admits or denies what's going on there, but I'm sure there is some significance.
                    • we'd talk everyday on the phone - although she did feel this was a chore, adn sometimes did not look forward to it. But when we talked she'd feel good - I always felt good when we talked. I just hated the distance.

                    But (as some people have suggested) maybe it was a facade, to keep me strung along, as it's nice to have someone who adores you, but you keep your freedom when they're away!

                    I do have to believe I just have had bad luck. But I do feel extremely sensitive and untrusting of any women (any color). And I hope it won't be too long before I can be truely, honestly, nice and romantic again, without feeling like I'm guarding myself against being ripped off in some way.
                    I do so hate loneliness, and she subjected me to that for so long, but I have to endure it for myself now, until I feel un-broken.
                    • Re: Distant lovers interracial

                      Thu, August 25, 2005 - 11:11 AM
                      i just went through this last month...i fell in love with someone over the internet. i went to visit some friends and hopefully to see him...everything we talked about turned out to be a lie b/c he didn't want to see me once i was there. i was heartbroken. i'm just sharing with you my experience. sometimes it does work out but for me no more long distant love affairs.
  • Re: Distant lovers interracial

    Thu, August 25, 2005 - 2:32 PM
    You can't 'get' anyone (near or far) to fall in love with you. And you have to just be yourself... if you are not being yourself then the person she is falling in love with is not truly you and the relationship is a fraud and won't last. On the other hand if you be yourself and she doesn't fall for you then you're just not meant to be together. Also, pay attention to the signs. If you are putting in all the effort that is a BIG sign!! In my experience I've learned that it's good to hope for the best but not 'expect' anything and KEEP YOUR EYES open.... Best of luck sweety!!
  • Re: Distant lovers interracial

    Sun, September 18, 2005 - 4:48 AM
    first of all:be who you really are..honesty is still the best policy...
    and being apart small "lies" can make the other part believe that you're different than you really are...
    secondly:a lot of patiente
    and in meantime be there for her(at least on net) on daily bases...small notes, pics, words, poems..can break someones heart...
    third:go and visit her or arrange that she'll visit you, and from that part you'll know what to do..or meet in between(like a wekeend in Venice or Paris...or whatever place you would like)
    keep in mind(i'm spekaing from mine experiences) that she might have been in bad previous relationships in which she was used and taken for granted..so if you think that she's really the nice person for you(that you're attracted not only to her outlooks!!!) DO THE FIRST STEP, and maybe show her how you feel about her...
    p.s. and just a thought-comming from the last summer school i went...we are far more occupied(blame it on the time and medias) with our looks than it is necessary...
    and i can say-even someonse spirit or soul can be very sexy;
    anyhow our body and beauty does fade away in time if it isn't supported form insight-from inner beauty and strenght...
    wish you all the best
    p.p.s. the worst can happen to you it would be to receive another NO or learn a good experience from whihc you would know what to do the next time..if there would be a next time
  • Re: Distant lovers interracial

    Thu, October 20, 2005 - 6:10 PM
    I hate to be the "buzz killer" Philip but my advice is to keep your expectations realistic unless you work for an airline. I met a lady on line who lived in Boise but I live in the Houston area. I went to visit her three times and we had fun every time but it just would't work because she had a job and family ties there and I had a job here. The only way the relationship could have a chance is if one of us moved to be with the other. Since that time I've tired to limit the distance between myself and anyone I'm interested in to a couple of hundred miles (and even that's a strecth with gas prices being what they are). That way I could see her twice a month easily. It's really hard to have a romantic relationship with someone if you can only see them a few times a year.

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