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An Interracial Question

topic posted Mon, December 26, 2005 - 8:12 AM by  philip
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Here's a little something you often hear about, most especially when watching TV. Why is it that most African-Americans tend to find it so far in accepting a fellow brother dating a white lady. Imagine the stress folks like Quincy Jones, Russell Simons and Tiger Woods have gone through.
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  • Re: An Interracial Question

    Mon, December 26, 2005 - 9:22 AM
    As we know that "non-accepting axe" cuts both ways. People who date interracially often face opposition from both sides. This is especially true when an African-American male dates a Caucasian lady. No other groups in America have had the bitter history those two have. Some African-American women feel that as soon as Brothers become upwardly mobile they choose a White lady. I guess they think that while he was trying to make it a White girl wouldn't have dated him but once he's on top (has money and status) then he's acceptable. The same thing goes for African-American women dating White guys. The criticism isn't so strident if one of the parties is not as successful or attractive (i.e. if an African-American guy is dating a not so attractive White lady or visa-versa).

    I've come to the conclusion that each person has to decide what is right for him/her. Only they know their true motivations in choosing a person to share a part of their life with. If their motivations are pure then what the world thinks really doesn't matter.
    • Re: An Interracial Question

      Mon, December 26, 2005 - 9:25 PM
      One also must consider the person's surroundings in their choice of dating partners. If one is surrounded by a majority of people of another color, naturally there is a greater probability that they will end up dating someone of another color.

      For instance, I went to a small college in New England. At that school, there weren't many women of color. Those that were there were pretty tightly knit chiefly around their race and gender. The hilarity that ensued when the men of color dated a woman of color on campus, broke up with them, and then tried to date another woman of color on campus could be the basis of a reality show. A 'Fear Factor' centered around mating rituals, if you will. The catch is, if you crossed the color line to date, you'd be ostracized within your own group. You were doomed either way. I pitied the poor soul that tried to toe that crazy line.

      Of course, one could have went to another campus for their loving, but the idea that I'm trying to illustrate is how different ways of thinking and relating to one another and their choice of lover can cause unfortunate friction. I'm sure that some people are numbskulls that believe that by dating another color that they have "made it" or are "dating up", but just as many aren't and are just behaving as would be expected within their environment.

      Hope it made sense. :)
      • Re: An Interracial Question

        Tue, December 27, 2005 - 6:22 AM
        Good point Patient.
        • Re: An Interracial Question

          Tue, December 27, 2005 - 7:39 AM
          Thanks! I thought it dovetailed well with your points about other people's motivations/feelings vs. one's ultimately personal reasons when it comes to interracial relationships.
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            Re: An Interracial Question

            Tue, December 27, 2005 - 9:47 AM
            My experience has been diffferent than most due to being raised in an inter-racial household as a child.

            My adopted mother is Brit/caucasian and my adoptive father is Chinese... from China.

            It's always seemed normal, natural, that couples could be/should be any and all races and colours.

            I too have an interacial relationship..my finacee is Persian, I'm Celtic/caucasian. This isn't a combo that gets much heat from the general public, though I get a lot of personal "warnings" about how "those" Mid-Eastern men treat their women. haha People have no clue....

            While I was living in the deep south the black/white thing was HUGE! It's mostly seen in white women/black men... and I was SHOCKED to find out that the white women who dated/lived with/married black men were basically shunned by their friends and family.

            Every year I find myself saying..."But this is the year 2000...2001...2002...etc,".... regardless of the narrow minds, prejudices, and plain ignorance that surrounds societies views on inter-racial relationships, I keep the faith that sooner, or later people WILL wake up and realize skin colour has NOTHING to do with anything other than one's ability to process sun exposure.... and one day we all WILL live in harmony.

            Too simplistic? I hope not.

            ~dd~
            • Re: An Interracial Question

              Wed, December 28, 2005 - 7:32 AM
              Here's another point: how come it's often very hard staying true to what you want all because it doesn't concide with what society grows on. You could find an interracial couple living together, but the folks around them would be looking down at them.

              I just wonder, how are folks ever going to take off that stigma of racism from their thoughts.
              • Re: An Interracial Question

                Wed, December 28, 2005 - 6:14 PM
                I guess it all boils down to what's more important, your own happiness or yielding to what some in society say is "acceptable".
                • Re: An Interracial Question

                  Thu, December 29, 2005 - 5:06 AM
                  That's a pretty touch choice if you ask me.
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                    Re: An Interracial Question

                    Thu, December 29, 2005 - 6:01 AM
                    It can be difficult depending on your surroundings. Just remember this, you stand a better chance of making your own self happy than you do trying to make every other person happy and approving.
                    • Re: An Interracial Question

                      Thu, December 29, 2005 - 1:44 PM
                      We have been in an interracial relationship for three years, (Not my first), and I have not noticed any kind of unacceptance anywhere we have been. It could just be me because I do not have a racist bone in my body and tend not to ever see that there is anything to notice. J.G. have you noticed anything? Would you point it out to me if you had or do in the future? I can't think of any remarks or trouble we have had but maybe you have just sheilded me from it? I wasn't raised that way and I think thats what it will take. When it becomes more and more accepted with each generation, children will not be brought up to hate.
                      • Re: An Interracial Question

                        Thu, December 29, 2005 - 6:15 PM
                        Things have changed quite a bit since the late sixties when I had my first interracial experience. I get looks from old timers mostly and mostly out in the "boonies". I think the average young person black and white has moved beyond those old attitudes. Maybe what Phillip was talking about was someone close to him or someone in his family not being accepting? I think people now days are worried about becoming one of the "have-nots" more than they are about who's dating whom.
  • Re: An Interracial Question

    Fri, December 30, 2005 - 3:01 PM
    I am in an interesting situation....although my husband is not african American, he is still black (Belizean). I am accepted by most of the black community there but sometimes I wonder if it is only because of judgements such as:
    1. white girl who has money/new opportunities for our family
    2. we accept the white girl because maybe we might have a chance at getting a visa one day.

    so imagine being accepted, but sometimes not knowing why you're being accepted....maybe it is the judgements or maybe they all really do accept me and don't even think of me in terms of race, or maybe a mix of both....but in steven's case, he is creole (specifically descendants of white scottish people who moved to belize and african slaves and indians). Has anyone ever felt accepted but not understood if there were other motivations behind it?
  • Re: An Interracial Question

    Sat, December 31, 2005 - 7:06 PM
    >>Here's a little something you often hear about, most especially when watching TV. Why is it that most African-Americans tend to find it so far in accepting a fellow brother dating a white lady. Imagine the stress folks like Quincy Jones, Russell Simons and Tiger Woods have gone through.<<

    a lot of black men date outside of their race for all the wrong reasons. most of its due to self-hate and envy.(im only speaking from a black male's perspecitve...im sure this may apply to other races) many blacks who see interracial couples assume the above applies to ALL of them.

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