Cali you have to see my previous post about my rules......Oh please dont compare me to the ALMIGHTY that is sac-religious. Im just a brother with a BIG lantern and a power ring askin questions.

Cali - "it's so funny how you jumped on mr greenlanterns words like he was a God"

My initial response to this thread, "I know what you're talkin 'bout but I've seen plenty of FINE white women with black men as well" - AND I DID NOT EVER IMPLY THIS MEANT SKINNY!!!

Cali- "that's a sad cop out for not being able to get one of the fine blk men who just so happen to like the bigger women"
EXCUSE ME??! As I said, that is the kind of guy I most often attract!! You don't fuckin know what goes on in my life!!

Did I fuckin say it always goes back to their mamas... NO, I DIDN'T! R was looking to analyze something for whatever reason and I simply stated my observations and I'm sure there are paralells in every community to both of my points...but that's not the focus of the thread now is it!

Cali- "And I have seen plenty of white men with big blk women." NEVER SAID I DIDN'T SEE THIS, I'M ON THE WESTCOAST AS WELL AND YES, IT'S VERY MIXED AND THAT'S WHY I LOVE IT HERE!

Cali- "I know PLENTY of white girls who maybe big but are sexy as hell." IF YOU WOULD HAVE KEPT READING THE THREAD YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN WHERE I SAID THERE ARE PLENTY OF BIG WOMEN WHO ARE "GORGEOUS".... HEL-FUCKING-LO! BUT IS THAT THE TOPIC OF THE THREAD.. NO!! and when I'm talking about a woman keeping herself up I simply mean combing her hair, wearing something decent(not a ripped stained t-shirt and sweats), maybe putting on a little makeup.... BACK ME UP ON THIS R, I know you feel me!!! AM I SAYING ALL BIG WHITE WOMEN ARE LIKE THIS, THAT IT'S ONLY THE BIG WHITE WOMEN AND NOT THE SKINNY ONES, THAT IT'S ONLY WHITE WOMEN?? FUCK NO!!! DID I EVER SAY BEING SKINNY MAKES A WOMAN LOOK GOOD??? HELL-FUCK-NO!!!

Cali- "ok let me finish reading this post and watch u attack the big white ladies that just happened to be attractive to man blk men as well as white me" ... WOULDN'T REALLY MAKE ANY SENSE SEEING AS I FIT THAT CATEGORY!! BUT YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY THE KIND OF PIG-HEADED IDIOT WHO IS GOING TO READ INTO IT WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT TO REGARDLESS OF THE FACTS....IF ANYONE IS ATTACKING ANYONE HERE IT'S YOU ATTACKING ME!!! SO I HAVE TWO WORDS FOR YOU...

FUCK YOU!!!

Be right there to have a sit-down R!

In my observation it often is the ugly ones (I admit I should not have said usually) which is what this thread is about.. scroll up to the top and read the topic of this discussion again please!! And for the record, I NEVER equated fat with ugly..you wrongly imputed that honey. I also NEVER said I saw ANYTHING wrong with ANYONE dating a big or ugly woman.. in fact I said that we should respect the relationships of those around us. I truly believe in love and respect over all else and am therefore very disturbed when I come across people like you who seem to have no trace of these (I'm not saying you don't because I don't know you.. you just haven't displayed it here).

"fuck you" simply means that if you want to be a narrow-minded, spiteful, adamant finger pointer I don't really care to have anything to do with you.

ok, so I JUST joined this tribe because I stumbled across this dicussion, which I'm finding very interesting.

I don't know how many of you are from the US and how amny from other places but I live in Vancouver, canada, where the dynamic is quite different. There aren't as many people here of african decent (whether from africa or the islands, etc.) so the roles here seem to be reversed.

You can find even the most plain looking or akward or even older black man with a realitively young and beautiful woman on his arm. It's particularly so on the west coast. I used to live back east and it wasn't quite the same there. Patially it's just a numbers thing.

As far as brothers diggin the "fat' chicks go, I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder and attraction has many reasons. It's a dam good thing that we're not all after the same thing, I say. There are also a fair number of brothers here with Asian women. We have a very large asian population here in vancouver.

Then there is what we're sold in the media as the image of female beauty. It's skinny and white....

I personally date who I see in my world that sparks me. My love just has no colour - no gender for that matter.


Anyway diggin the honest here...

Bryan I agree with you 100%. You touched on several big issues. The most important is self love. As an African American Man, I have noticed that certain people went to great length to try to degrade the image of people of color. I would say the motives of these people are power and exploitation. The problem is mainly the ignorant buy into this propaganda. Then who makes up the "ignorant"? Poor people!!

Bryan I dont like to get into politics but when Bush got "elected" for the second term. Did you notice that most of the red states were states with the most poverty and no jobs.

You think how could this be when Bush is clearly a president who sides with corporate business.

In the military they call it Psy Ops

Thats why some poor people have low self-esteem.

Thats why the standard of beauty has changed to outward beauty instead of inner beauty.

Phira - "What is ugly to some may be beautiful to others".. amen girl.. I always say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder and thank God for that!! And you don't look 'fat' to me and how could you not be sexy with lips like those!!

R - I thought we were talking more about relationships here and not so much about whether or not you would hit it... you seem to be gettin a little carried away with your freaky-deaky 'genocide by love' theory.. LOL... Leavin fatherless babies all over ain't gonna help the situation and neither will hittin a bunch of different chicks... I know you're just playin and I'm just givin you a hard time.... but fo real bro... it's not supposed to be about sex.

i can't honestly call myself black, although i certainly have to live with the fact that i look black enough to have to live with it..

"But is it because they like the women?"

well for me that's a definite yes. i do not hang around people i do not like.

"it makes them feel like they got a trophy or maybe its a revenge thing.."

speak for yourself... this is just a stereo-type that suits you.

Or its just because of the skin color?

born to a couple whose mixed races leave me with scottish/irish/african/spanish/chinese in my blood,i was raised by a white family in the 70's while my mom worked her nursing job in the weekdays. a big family too.. the daughters liked me and took care of me. it was a bit of an antagonistic life growing up in a small ontario town where i was the only "black" kid. i have lots of reasons to be attracted to white women.

my choices to date women have certainly not been exclusive to white girls but they certainly have leaned towards white girls.

the woman i am with becomes the embodiment of my sense of beauty, after i can truly feel her, and communicate with her. i appreciate the unusual beauty before the mundane obvious beauty. barbie and such just does not fly with me...

ps. it's kind of funny to hear these sophomoric judgements about superficial qualities. there is so much more to relationships than how cute they are together. when you find love... you enjoy it before it slips from your fingers like grains of sand.

Beauty is both physical and mental. Thats just how it is. No one would date someone they dont find attractive.